CRT PC Monitors: Ancient Trash or Display Treasure?


Every time I see advertisements and videos
about new computer monitors, I have to chuckle. The past 3-4 years have seen high refresh
rate and higher than 1080p resolution monitors flood the markets – 75hz, 120hz, 144hz, 1440p,
4K. As a pixel junkie, I’m certainly not going
to complain about more frames or pixels – but most of these monitors are so boring. We spent 10 to 15 years with flat panel LCD
monitors being far inferior to their CRT ancestors, that I find it hard to be exciting for this
modern technology to catch up. I’m EposVox, and welcome back to Vox Talks
Tech. I’m a huge tech head, but I still prefer
those “old tube monitors” that most people think are garbage or ancient relics. In this video we’ll be deep diving into
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description. This video is going to go deep and there will
be a little technical details – but the important part is the fun. Exploring old technology, high refresh and
frame rates, crazy resolutions, awesome looking screens – the early 2000s was a much cooler
time for tech than today in some ways, and hopefully that shows here. Before we get too technical or complicated,
I want to mention that PC CRT monitors are not the same as CRT TVs that you might have
played your old Nintendo or Playstation on – without specialized signal conversion, which
we will cover later in the video, most PC CRT monitors cannot view signals from composite
or the old RCA cables and your old video game consoles. If you’re just looking to get a more authentic
retro games fix, you likely want to pick up an old CRT TV – I posted a full video about
that experience last year, which you can check out in the link in the video description. Let’s get vocab and history out of the way
first. CRT means “Cathode Ray Tube” and the displays
work by shooting electrons from a cathode in the back of the box to the front. This is very different than how modern LCD
and LED screens work. CRT technology was also widely used for old
TVs, as well, as we mentioned and have a dedicated video on already. CRT monitors are big, bulky, heavy, and don’t
support modern video connections – so they’re useless, right? Well, that common perception is only partially
true. They do take up more room than flat-screens,
but they aren’t always huge. CRT monitors DO have to fit on a desk – or
at least desks from the 90s and early 2000s, after all. CRTs are available in a plethora of sizes,
colors and even shapes! There’s a lot more personality to CRTs than
the flat black design of just about every modern screen. And not all CRTs have the bubbled-out screen
that’s so prone to glares. There are a variety of flat-screened models
out there – CRT monitors with a flat Trinitron screen are highly sought after by enthusiasts. Unlike their TV counterparts, PC CRTs haven’t
had anywhere near as much of a resurgence in popularity for retro gaming. Mainly because people consider retro gaming
to just be about old consoles – and a lot of progress has been made to keep old PC games
playable, such as all of the efforts made by GOG.com. A site that sells new games, but also does
a ton of legwork to make old games playable on modern hardware and even includes digital
versions of the original goodies included with the games.I’d also recommend NoClip’s
documentary on their work, linked in the description. But PC CRTs still have redeeming qualities
that make them fun for enthusiasts and just for those of us who prefer CRTs to LCDs in
general, it naturally makes sense to extend that to computer use, as well. There’s a few generalized reasons that people
prefer CRT monitors over LCDs: Nostalgia, proper compatibility with older PCs and games,
input latency, refresh rate and resolution flexibility, and perceived color “depth”
or dynamic range. Technically, normal LCD or LED monitors and
CRT monitors have the same “dynamic range”. This is referred to as “Standard Dynamic
Range” or “SDR” – a light variance measurement, or “maximum luminance,” of 100 nits. This has been the standard for a very long
time, as it was based on the limits of CRT technology. Only recently are we seeing a change to this
with HDR technology for new screens. The issue, here, is in how different types
of screens actually display light. Despite having the same measured dynamic range,
CRTs and Plasma TVs actually appear to the eye to be better in this regard. Some often refer to this as the CRT’s image
having “more color depth.” Blacks are deeper, whites are brighter, colors
pop more. LCDs more often look flat due to the backlighting’s
inability to vary brightness enough, or on a per-pixel basis like OLED, and just not
being able to go to pure black in the first place. This is even better when combined with how
CRT monitors handle sharpness. Unlike CRT TVs that have a small number of
vertical lines and can usually only accept up to 240p or 480i signals via noisy analog
connections, CRT monitors are PURE RGB via the HD-15 or DE-15 connector, also known as
the VGA connector by most normal people. On rare occasion a CRT monitor will have a
different connector – such as the direct BNC RGBHV connections on this Impression 200VX
monitor I have, but it’s all meant for the same signals. Some of the more exotic older 3D and CAD workstations
had bigger connectors like this weird 13W3 here, but these aren’t common finds from
consumer sets. This expensive Gateway I have, has TWO VGA
inputs, and a USB hub. Crazy stuff – but this thing was 1000 bucks
in the year 2000. Too bad it’s dying and won’t be usable. This means the monitor has a much cleaner
image connection than your old TVs hooked up to your old game systems. Plus, CRTs don’t have a fixed “resolution”
in the first place. Depending on the maximum horizontal refresh
rate and the video bandwidth, or “pixel clock,” of the monitor, a CRT monitor can
display resolutions from 640×480 up to a phenomenal 2048×1536. My main CRT monitors with 96kHz max horizontal
rates can go up to 1600×1200 resolution, but this broken Gateway monitor with a 121kHz
max rate can do 1800×1440 at 80hz. That’s essentially the 4:3 aspect ratio
version of 1440p at 80hz from the year 2000! This is starting to show why newer screen
tech hasn’t impressed me much – we were doing all of this 20 years ago. Hell, a commonly-shared article when people
first get into PC CRTs is this one showing that John Carmack was developing Quake on
a 28 inch 1080p CRT monitor way back in 1995. Unlike LCDs, however, CRTs generally remain
sharp at non-native resolutions. LCDs need to use the monitor’s scaler to
scale up a lower-resolution signal to the monitor’s actual display resolution, which
results in the image looking a lot softer than it should, and potentially adding input
lag. It usually just looks plain bad – especially
if you’re not using proper integer-scaled resolutions. CRTs, however, are pretty sharp through most
resolutions. Sometimes some of the higher resolutions aren’t
as sharp as lower resolutions due to how some of the tubes work – but for most usable resolutions,
generally they’re sharp no matter what you’re throwing at them. This era of PC gaming was so much better because
of this. You could run 60fps slower detailed games
at crazy high resolutions, then drop down to 1024×768 or 1280×960 at a higher refresh
rate for some stuff, and down to 640×480 to run older DOS games. And your image will look amazing through and
through. On a LCD… it’s generally safer to crank
down your in-game detail than to lower the display resolution – though some newer games
are finally releasing with separate render resolution functionality to help combat this. And all of this is delivered with no inherent
added input latency. No perceivable lag. This is still mostly analog, versus digital-only
on LCDs and LEDs. Digital equals processing time equals input
delay. It’s always there, even if it’s low enough
that you can’t detect it. However, generally speaking analog means no
input lag. It’s not quite that simple, I know, but
it’s a good rule to keep in mind. Granted, if you’re using a PC CRT with a
video converter of some kind, there might technically be some added delay from that
process – though good ones would add a max of 1 frame’s worth of delay. Just like with CRT TVs, PC CRT monitors have
no latency, which is hugely important for many gaming enthusiasts. Heck, for a long time, Counter-Strike competitive
players still preferred using CRTs for the high refresh rates and no latency up until
very recently. While old games themselves are being adapted
by their various communities to run on modern versions of Windows, if you want to use your
old childhood Windows 98 machine, or build a dedicated Windows XP machine – generally
that’s only going to output VGA. You can get conversions to up-convert that
to HDMI, and in many cases that’s fine, but the same games on a CRT don’t always
look so hot on a LCD. Some people just want the pure authentic experience. Alternatively, some people want to use their
CRTs on modern machines. Basic DisplayPort or HDMI to VGA adapters
are alright for a basic setup – but they will add a tiny bit of input lag in some cases,
and they are very limited in terms of what resolution and refresh rate combinations they
can support. Most are using old HDMI and DisplayPort specifications,
and raw VGA to VGA analog actually supported a lot more bandwidth than early HDMI and DisplayPort. If you want something truly capable of this
kind of conversion, look to the HD Fury devices. They produce HDMI devices that can do virtually
anything, including low lag, high bandwidth signal conversion. This isn’t a problem if you have a graphics
card with the analog pins still in the DVI connector – these are the 4 pins in a square
around the horizontal big pin. This is referred to as a DVI-I connector,
with both analog and digital pins, and the last GPUs to be produced with the analog pins
still included were the Nvidia GTX 980ti and AMD Radeon R9 380X. Then you can use a native analog DVI to VGA
adapter and have access to your monitor’s full capabilities. Maybe try out the Custom Resolution Utility
software, too, if needed. Side note, the Xbox 360 actually had a specific
VGA cable kit sold with it, to allow users who only had access to VGA and CRT monitors
to play the system, which can make for an interesting experience. Most CRT monitors are 4:3 aspect ratio. Wider aspect ratios didn’t become mainstream
until a while after LCDs took over. But there are a couple options. You could try to hunt down the SiliconGraphics
widescreen models of the late 90s like what Carmack used – though, good luck, they’re
incredibly rare. Or there’s the holy grail Sony FW900 and
W900 16:10 widescreen CRT. It’s 24 inches, probably weighs as much
as I do, and is highly sought after by many enthusiasts – myself included. Been hunting for one for two years now, and
no real leads. And they’re expensive. A lot of the more exotic monitors like the
1995 1080p one are old CAD 3D design monitors from the 90s, which have no OSD or on-screen
display controls and have to be adjusted by specialized software, which can be quite the
hassle. Later ones are fine to work with, however. Most of the CRTs I have can even run 720p,
1280×720 at 120hz, which is awesome. And if you use custom resolution tools to
run interlaced modes – which it’s still a CRT so you won’t see interlace lines – you
can frequently double the refresh rate, making it feel a bit snappier. But choose wisely, as things are not all sunshine
and rainbows on the CRT front. Unfortunately, without the original manual,
it can be hard to find the specs of specific CRT models. I’ve been lucky that a lot of the ones I
have looked at have some specs listed on CNET – I hope someone has archived their CRT pages,
I’ll be sad when they go down. There you can sometimes find the max bandwidth
and horizontal rate to see what resolutions and refresh rates are supported. They’re not always 100% accurate, but good
for getting a glance’s info at the monitor, if you can’t find anything else. Other times, like with this Impression 200VX
I have, there’s not an ounce of information available by Googling. The size and weight can be a big deal. It may not sound like it at first, but it
really is. Once you start getting to the 20+ inch size
range, these things can weigh up to 80-ish pounds in some cases. And it’s by no means an evenly-distributed
weight, it’s all in the front. This 21” Impression monitor is almost 70
pounds, as is this big Gateway. While CRTs were built to last, the components
do die eventually, and there’s not many repair shops left that will touch them – and
it’s VERY dangerous to open them up and work on yourself. The voltages running through there would put
more than a little sizzle in your step. (I haven’t found ANYWHERE local to me that
will touch them.) A lot of these monitors were the ugly beige
or white, which can yellow over time. Some retro-brite can take care of this, but
it is extra work. This Gateway VX1120 that I got for free is
a very high end monitor with a maximum horizontal refresh rate of 121kHz, but it’s very worn
and dying – the screen is incredibly dark and almost unusable. I can try to open it up and adjust a dial
to brighten it more, but that may not fix the issue. And now it’s up to me to safely dispose
of this 72 pound beast. And burn-in IS an issue. If you find some that were in offices or healthcare
spaces where the same screen had been pulled up for years on end – you’ll have burn-in
such as on this screen here, which isn’t really fixable. If it’s light such as on this screen here,
you won’t notice it much in-game, but it can be obvious on scenes of pure dark or a
solid color background, or something. Thankfully, most PC CRT monitors do degauss
themselves upon starting up, but you have a built-in degauss tool in the OSD menus,
so no need for a degauss wand or coil if you do somehow develop issues which require that
specific fix. Sometimes you’ll find one and someone has
chopped off the VGA connector to recycle the copper. A lot of CRTs did not have detachable VGA
cables, so good luck soldering on a new one to that mess. And if you bite off more than you can chew
with a giant CRT, it’s not something you can easily get rid of, either. There’s the issue of physically moving it,
sure, but it’s not something you can just dispose of. You should never put electronics in the trash,
but rather send them to recycling centers or send in programs such as through Staples,
but it’s actually illegal to put CRT monitors in the trash. They’re dangerous to waste employees and
to the environment. Some cities have recycling centers you can
drop them off at, but the end locations are actually nothing but a stockpile of these,
as they have been completely unable to keep up with the disassembly process. If you do need to get rid of one, I highly
request you start with Craigslist, local Facebook seller groups, LetGo and Offerup. Don’t expect to get much money for it, but
list it for free and someone will take it. Or put it on the edge of your yard near the
street with a “FREE” sign on it and pickers will likely grab it. Some people can see the actual image flicker
or refresh of the screen on a CRT monitor at 60hz. This is usually resolved by going literally
any higher than 60hz, it’s something I see sometimes, but it’s there. This can lead users to get headaches from
CRT usage, which can really suck. I did mention that they’re not compatible
with your old game consoles. There are some fancy multi-sync monitors that
can do both, such as from NEC, but these aren’t common. Instead, you would have to use an upscaler
or line doubler – such as the Open Source Scan Converter or Retro TINK to make this
happen. I LOVE doing this – I have this running in
my retro game room, running my older consoles through the OSSC line doubler means I get
sharper retro games blown up on my nicer-looking PC CRT monitor, and still nearly lag-free. I run the systems into their appropriate switches,
either for component, RGB via SCART or VGA for the Dreamcast, then into the OSSC. Then I take the OSSC’s HDMI output and run
it through the HD Fury Nano GX to fit it to VGA and we’re good to go. This monitor can handle all of the full scaling
modes of the OSSC – even 5x. It’s awesome. GameCube via component cables at 480p 2x mode,
is amazing. BUT this is a complex setup, and gets quite
price, so certainly not for everyone. For systems that already output 480p, but
through Component YPbPr cables, you can get transcoders that just convert the signal type
without adding lag. Just be careful to not get one that tries
to scale the signal – you don’t want a scaler, just a transcoder. Check out Key Digital for some. I’ll try to have a couple examples linked
in the description. If you want to buy a CRT monitor – look local. Facebook Marketplace or local Facebook groups,
Craigslist, LetGo, OfferUp, driving around neighborhoods. Avoid eBay – everything is price gouged to
take advantage of those wanting to get into retro gaming, and shipping these things is
usually a death sentence. I actually bought TWO of these Impression
200VX to go together, but one got killed in shipping. It was sad. This is incredibly common. Press F to pay respects. Keep checking regularly. I have found the ones I have by creating a
custom Craigslist search as a bookmark, and just checking it weekly. Sometimes new things pop up. Most people don’t even want money for these. I can’t make the choice of picking up a
CRT for you. It can be an easy decision “oh pick up this
little old monitor and enjoy peak display experience,” or it can be a super involved
process, depending on how you want to approach it. I can’t, in good faith, blindly just say
“Yeah go buy one,” but I do think it can be a good experience for many with an open
mind. I started with the a small IBM with burn-in
from a buddy, and now have FIVE CRT monitors, in my apartment as well as a few CRT TVs. There are options available to you, factors
to consider, use cases to really evaluate, and risks involved – but a CRT computer monitor
can be an amazing gaming and overall experience. If you want to get serious about CRTs, consider
joining a Facebook group that I’m a part of called “The CRT Collective” linked
in the description, and we also have a PC CRT group branched off of it. I’m EposVox, and thanks for listening to
Vox Talks Tech. I hope you enjoyed this fun video. It’s by no means a complete guide, but should
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100 comments

  • EposVox

    I was quoted in a VICE article on the subject! https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/kz4gqm/why-this-20-year-old-crt-monitor-is-better-than-a-4k-lcd?utm_campaign=sharebutton
    Some have expressed unhappiness with the current offerings of CRT communities in my video, and I get why. I've made a channel for it in my discord server! I'm as welcoming as I can be! (which might not say much) https://eposvox.com/discord

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  • Alex Carrillo

    Still have my old CRT monitor, waiting for when using on my film scanner.

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  • RedNine

    7:22 IM SEEING XFIRE AND WINAMP AAAAHH SO MUCH NOSTALGIA :((((

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  • Gnubbolo

    CRT Philips Brilliance 202P7

    colors: Sony and NEC excellent [i also have a 17" Sony so i can compare], others very good
    input lag: nothing
    angle of view: 90°
    resolution: max 2K
    refresh: depending on the resolution from 60 to 150 hertz. i use 1024×768 100 hz for normal use, 1600×1200 85 for gaming. all perfect
    —–

    the crt gives the best in the online fps, I can go down to 800×600 if I have a very heavy game for the video card. this kept me from spending money every year to upgrade the hardware.
    last year i took the 1050ti. so I play project cars at 1600×1200 85hz 2x SSAA.
    being able to go up and down to resolution at will, for me the problem in online games is always and only the processor, but this summer I take the new ryzen.

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  • Zeke Barrett

    excuse me guys, if i get let's say, a retrothink2x and a hdmi mini to vga adapter, will i get a better quality picture for component on a vga crt monitor than component on a crt tv? i mean…is the quality better on a consumer crt vga monitor than in a consumer crt tv?

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  • Expression

    Currently using a CRT as my main monitor. Looks better than any LCD I have that I can throw at it. 1280×[email protected] I have an eMac sitting next to me that has an even more beautiful display.

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  • Pabloxd123

    your high end monitor could be fixed you with a simple recap

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  • MD

    I'm seeking for something that supports SCART or RGBs…
    What would you suggest?

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  • JohnnyNismo

    The CRT Collective is here (again). We must make more CRT YouTube videos. #SaveTheCRTs !

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  • devilboykillz

    you can find that super rare one on amazon. lol

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  • TyIsConfusedTV

    "Avoid Ebay"
    I do agree with you, absolutely. Though I did get my 14" PVM from there lol It's great, but I'm actually getting myself a computer monitor since the screen is bigger, plus all the resolution benefits. It's kind of annoying since I can't go higher than 480i on my PVM. Also, if you like scanlines, you can use the RetroTink Ultimate to output a Raspberry Pi at 320p 120hz, which will allow 31khz and will make natural scanlines (Though the provided version of Lakka can be configured to output 480p/720p/1080p through VGA and Component. I use a Raspberry Pi to play GB and GBA games on my PVM over component so that would be a great setup! The only thing I wish were possible to do is to take an old console signal and convert it to a 120hz output to get the same result. I plan to just use the RetroTink 2X as you did.

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  • munir hassan

    Play pubg

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  • EposVox

    Subscribe to never miss an episode: https://youtube.com/eposvox?sub_confirmation=1

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  • You know the deal son

    Awesome video , saving for later thanks

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  • Milo Rodriguez

    Subscribed and thanks for HD fury GX review, just what I’ve been looking for! Cheers

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  • goldenheartOh

    1 thing I still don't understand. How come my 1ms 144Hz Asus gaming LCD monitor gets blurry when there's motion? CRT's don't do that. (If you don't notice it, try reading a name on a map as it slowly scrolls.) I've read it's because the crystals can't change states fast enough, but it's just 1ms. Top of the line LCD but it can't do smooth motion.
    Luckily, I've found a little program that strobes the backlight on & off so the pixels aren't lit while transitioning states, & it looks AMAZING, but that doesn't do anything for me when I play my xbox.

    The combination of no motion blur and deeper color depth makes CRT's look sooo much better.

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  • Sid Tandy

    Thanks for good introduction to the world of CRT.
    What do you think about PC Monitors from mid 90s. I'm soon picking up a Goldstar-monitor which came with a PC 486 from around 1994. I was hoping to connect my laptop to it (it has VGA connector) to play some dos games through Dosbox, but I'm a bit unsure if the transfer will work out. Are there any risks in connecting modern computers to old monitors? And how do early 2000 differ from mid to late 90s monitors?

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  • Duffy Sullivan

    This really is an excellent review and introduction to the late, great CRT. I hung on to CRT tech for both my PC monitor and HDTV until just recently. I had both the Sony FW900 and the Viewsonic P225F 21 inch. But like EposVox says, once they give up the ghost there is no one to fix them. They are old displays with tons of hours on them. I recycled my PC monitors when they quit working, but still have my CRT HDTV, the Sony XBR910.

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  • Hamzix

    hdmi to dvi-d have no input lag as both port use digital signal with the only difference is hdmi carrying audio

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  • kjell159

    7:02
    Suddenly a wild Ubuntu bionic beaver appears.

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  • Br!z0lit

    I would try this but i can hear crts TVs from another room and it is not a pleasant sound so im scared it might be same with monitors :/

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  • DorjeB0dh

    CRT Master race

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  • SLS -Sound and Light Sorcery

    F

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  • ermonski

    Manufacturers should start making 4:3 LED monitors again

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  • The Automaticist

    I’ve noticed the thing about resolution and refresh rate on my iMac G3

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  • janno288

    who else watches the vid on a crt ?

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  • Mister Nobody

    A big drive towards LCD was power usage and space. Companies wanted lower electricity bills and more room on desks.

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  • xscallcos boss

    f

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  • Ranga Nadh

    Horror movies are best viewed on CRT monitors

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  • Jeffrey Crews

    But where can I buy a decent one?

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  • davide galliussi

    when i was a kid i wanted an rgb monitor for the sega genesis and play wonderboy 5. the problem for the old consoles is the 480i signal .. the vga monitors want 480p ..the hd retrovision has made the component cable but then a transcoder is needed to bring the signal in progressive. as a child I thought it was easier 😓

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  • Prince Fabulous

    7:29
    Ugh, that posture.

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  • OrangeGaming

    What game is that @0:20?

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  • Kyland Priest

    Sure

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  • Tyler Frankel

    When that guy threw the Mac g3 in the trash 😢

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  • rustymotor

    I wanted to find an old CRT monitor but they are so hard to find now. They were quickly replaced with flat screens and now are virtually extinct. I miss that retro look and quality that only a CRT can offer, flat screens sure are boring!

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  • Xtra Spice Mikey

    spread the word around! DON'T THROW OUT CRT MONITORS!!! people still want them!

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  • Xtra Spice Mikey

    CRT's will always look better! for me they just have this pleasant glow about them.

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  • Walter Melon

    Please tell what converter from digital to analogue do you use to connect these monitors to modern graphics cards? If you are using any.

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  • James S

    I really want a new monitor in a 4:3 ratio. I didnt care as much about crt vs the new monitors, but 16:9 is not my cup of tea.

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  • Mohamad Nasmeer

    Imagine 4k 360Hz crt tv

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  • Dev D

    I loved my Dell 17 inch monitor, but a part in it went bad and i just couldn't find it in the market, so i had to let it go

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  • I Love Mylar Balloons Forever

    CRTs sucks I will not go back to using a CRT…

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  • Hitachi 42 inch TVs are power consuming monsters

    I have a Sony trinitron and I absolutely love it, but whenever it’s turned on it makes a really annoying high pitch noise but apart from that it was a great find

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  • Intrepid Intervenor

    oh fuck dude. I love GOG so much. I buy as much as I can from them

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  • Tilly Law

    my CRT has a demagnetize button, which when pressed makes the monitor display weird patterns and radiate static electricity! they were so cool and unique

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  • Daniel Carter

    What size crt tv would you recommend for retro games?

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  • INVIAM PSBOXTENDO

    I bought a LG StudioWorks 700S 16 inch CRT monitor beige in color for just 4 USdollars!! It's stand is just a bit broken!

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  • Rahul Chavan

    Fantastic

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  • Razvan220

    MY GTX 1060 Strix oc 6gb has DVI still

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  • Wolfgang

    man this is just depressing to see this tech die. Its so impressive.

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  • M E N E F R E G O

    Revolt against the lcd modern world and return to crt tradition.

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  • KainSwiss

    Gamecube and xbox 360 worked on CRT Monitors with a RGB cable which cost back then an arm and a leg.

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  • ralph carter

    if i had more room i would totally mess around with crt's and getting old retro setups going. That would be really fun

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  • Metal Gamer

    Digital Foundry recently covered CRTs with modern games. And they have that holy grail you talked about!

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  • Male Sensitivity

    Digital Foundry caused me to search and find this video. Now these CRT monitors are going to go through the roof in price! I'm searching for a Trinitron now 🙂

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  • Ronal Martinez

    That ring announcer voice made me subscribe.

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  • DoctorWeeTodd

    Screw this newfangled gimmick inferior technology. The Baird wheel is the superior display panel. You kids don’t know what a good monitor is until you’ve seen a Baird Mechanical Display.

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  • SevenDeMagnus

    So cool.
    I still play a PC CRT for House of the Dead 2 (light gun)
    and Shenmu 1 & 2 on the Dreamcast w/ VGA box.

    God bless, Proverbs 31

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  • Ragdoll Productions Fan 2005

    I say yes for Retro Computer's

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  • Thunder Lips

    Great video great information. The new digital foundry video brought me here but your professionalism and Imo coolness kept me here and made me a new subscriber. You rock

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  • Fabian

    Everything looks better in a CRT

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  • ducciboi

    You say they're very sharp but I see a little blurriness on text and icons on the Dell E773 monitor I just found. Was wondering if there's something in the settings to fix it but could just be the anti-glare/anti-static coating. It also goes up to 1280 x 1024 at 60 Hz.

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  • Varunpreet Singh

    So CRT's can do :

    Good scaling of all resolution up to its native resolution.
    Have deepest blacks
    Best perceived depth ..

    Does the same or any apply to plasma TV's too?

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  • Kotonoha Katsura

    nvidia 900 series are the last generation that support analog signals

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  • CountCarbsNotCals

    Timmy Joe and Digital Foundry also talking about CRT's .. what's the buzz here, and can we make our LCD's do this? Why not?

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  • Browsing Da Webs

    Im a hipster. Hear me attempt to justify how im not a hipster.

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  • XpodX

    To ugly, and to low res, im at 215ppi 5k

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  • Clifton Blackburn

    Jumping on that digital Foundry dick aren't you? Good try though bra.

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  • Evil Diesel

    jump to 1:36 to bypass the shameless advertisement – as if youtube needed more ads

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  • Nate Franco

    Any recommendations besides the HDfury for using a crt with modern gpu? I have an rtx 2080 so I do have the newest (assuming newest) hdmi and displayport connectors. Right now I have an hdmi to vga like you show in the video but I am having an issue displaying ANY interlaced refresh rate (even at something bizarre like 800 x 600 @ 60Hz) and I'm assuming this is why.

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  • sonicwingnut

    10:07 – might have a game-changer here – I found an old Sony F520 at work, so did a bit of research to see if I could get it working at it's native 2048×1536 @85Hz with my RTX 2060 Super.. VirtualLink! It's a USB-C output on some recent Nvidia cards (founders edition all have them, not all AiBs) you can use any old USB-C hub with them and that includes ones that output VGA or HDMI. I used a £10 "Chotek" one off Amazon and it ran 2048×1536 @75Hz no problem! Because VL is built into your GPU you get full-whack gaming performance too.

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  • Sarah Slavin

    As An EX AV engineer things I strongly disliked about CRT's. Phosphers on screen are a Grey tone thus no true blacks on screen on the contrast illusion of a black. The high Frequency generators (occilators) driving the coils would cause High pitched whine constantly varying with image and brightness being produced. The extremly high voltages being used causing Ionisation of the Area around the Tube.( static electrical fields). The heat, the power consumption. …No way have I any interest in them for my current usage. I could see the Dots of the Phosphers thus resoulution is lower than my current Monitor where I havew ro get right up with a low power magnifier glass to see my current pixel on screen.
    Dont forget the technology your talking about had 75+ years of development and refinment to reach those specs. Give LCD/LED/OLED and other developing screen/ display technologies to mature and that generation will be laughing about how our forebears used such antiquated technology….Sorr through 30+ years of experiencing CRT's am neither convinced or sad to no longer be using such tech.

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  • ThanatosXRS

    I had a 24” Sony Vega(or was it Wega) best display ever besides my current labtop. But CRTs usually didnt display more then 60hz due to the inputs not supporting higher then 60hz. Example OLEDs like CRTs have no actual refresh limits, the inputs cant processes higher rates. I believe some are confusing Refresh with Response rate. LCDs have notoriously bad response rate due to being actual liquid moving around where CRT is just electronic rays hitting glass. CRT resolution rates are fake even though you can output whatever res u want to there is still a set amount of pixels, inputs are passive in vga

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  • MelficeXD

    The current tech is done to be backwards compatible with CRT, vertical synchronising (vsync) isn't called like that for nothing. Interleaved vs progressive scan, gamma correction… All those terms were coined on CRT monitors and lcd displays were forced to recognize them when the work essentially in a different way, no wonder CRT looks better, it's where all the video technology makes sense 😅

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  • B M

    Same here, I've only ever had HD CRT TVs. Far superior image quality.

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  • Alex

    What's the game you're playing at 14:45?

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  • Zwyczajny Kanał

    About a month ago i found an LG CRT monitor (Precisely LG Flatron F700B) next to the trash container. I took it home, gave it a good clean on the inside and out, and it works great!!

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  • UpRoaryus

    My mother got one of the last mohicans when the skinny lcds were getting all the store shelf space. Both of us kept coming back to the open box 34 inch widescreen Sony Trinitron that had been relegated to the corner on the floor, which was priced to move to clear the way. Thing weighs 240 lbs. but we decided it had the best looking picture by far. I ha2 yearsd a 35 inch that only lasted 5 years before it started acting up and finally died after 2 more years of struggle, but I wouldn't let it go until I found a 36inch replacement for 100 bucks that turned into free when it wouldn't turn on either. But I haven't let it go yet, still hoping it can be repaired despite newer flatter screen monsters at 55 at 65 inches have moved in. Nothing feels quite as good as that old crt picture…

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  • Thanh Ho Sy

    this guy sounds exactly like nickatnyte

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  • ASchraub

    There are some flatscreen CRT TVs that actually had HDMI during the transition process to LCD

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  • Larry Garner

    guys do more videos about CRT s because we have to bring back crts

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  • REDBIRD

    Not a pc guy. 1st vid ive seen from ya. Very cool to see someone else with a passion for CRT’s. I have a couple Sony’s for my consoles. True retro is through a CRT.

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  • Scott The Protogen

    2:26 random windows xp sound

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  • girlsdrinkfeck

    RGB SCART from console to VGA was common in the UK even in the 90s

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  • Shivam Dohare

    9:36 is that delta force?

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  • Chef Tony

    TV repair shop local to me shut down recently 🙁

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  • Edragyz

    Just waiting for some galaxy brain scientist to fix the only problem with oled.

    Crt's can burn in? Yeah, that alone kills it.

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  • Frank J. Alejo

    Couldn't the analogue DAC convert to a PC monitor now?

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  • Christopher Coonan

    F

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  • Daniel Combs

    Christ….how many tabs did you have open?!

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  • Dexter Lacroy

    I can still remember CRT On-buttons having the most satisfying push. Original Far Cry looked awesome on my 19"

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  • Jule Rulez

    Hoarding much arent we?

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  • V.J.W. N

    So I have a gtx 1080 and a VGA display which goes up to 1600 by 1200 at 75hz. I am not putting down 300 bucks for a converter until I think it is worth it, anybody recommendations what I should get for active adapter and for which port (hdmi, dp, DVI).

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  • WoWzer

    Question is, if I use a CRT TV that has a component input (Get HDMI to Component)
    will everything apply to the tv outside of refresh rate?

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  • WoWzer

    I'm a bad guy.
    I've thrown away a few HUGE 32 inch bulb screen tvs in my regular trash outsidie HAHA.

    I bust it all up VERY well, then I use like old rug to secure it all, and use a contractor bag. This way it disguises the noise from the glass, and makes it safer for them to handle.
    So far? It's worked lol.
    My guys are bad ass dudes tho, cause those bags were heavy as fuc.

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  • JDDeluxe

    What exactly is an "EposVox"??

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  • CatProductions95

    cough cough you can play cool games like Medal of Honor on that cough cough

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  • mastrtonberry2

    Dude it might need recapped if it's fading. Don't trash it man…

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  • Revener666

    CRT monitors still beat LCD for overall quality.

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