New PS4 Pro Controller: Scuf Vantage 2 Review

– In the ongoing battle
for PS4 Pro controllers, Scuf has a new entry, with the Vantage 2. Now this is something a
little bit different for Scuf, because normally when they
make a new Pro controller, it’s some kind of very heavy redesign. I mean, you just look at the jump from the Infinity to the Impact, and then from the Impact to the Vantage. The Vantage 2 on the other hand, I mean, just from the name alone you can tell, it’s not really meant to be
a whole new crazy redesign, but instead a refinement of
what the original Vantage was. So we’re gonna go over what the benefits of the Vantage are in general, and then we’re gonna take
a look at what is different and new about this one
compared to the original, and see whether or not
it’s worth grabbing. Back when the original Vantage came out, I was a really big fan of
it because of the amount of on board customization
offered without needing to rely on a ton of different tools. This is something that has always been kind of a win-lose situation for me with past Scuf controllers,
where they offer a lot of customization,
but you have to make sure that you have a key for changing this, a key for changing that,
that’s not the case with this, there’s only one tool you
ever have to worry about for one specific feature, everything else is done on board super easily. For instance, if you
wanna remap the buttons, instead of relying on a magnetic key that you put on the back, you just flip it into a remap mode that’s
on the bottom here, make any changes you wanna make, switch back, you’re good to go. There’s also a lot of
different physical changes you can make, such as the back triggers, if you wanna add the longer ones, you just snap it off, put
the other one back on. You can adjust the trigger stops by either having a regular full one, or you just twist this
little knob right here to have a short stop, and
even all the back paddles, which are kinda the signature Scuf feature for having remappable
additional button options are all things that you can just slide and take off the back no problem. Along with these two
additional side buttons that are part of the Vantage design that’s really cool, you can just take that off if you don’t wanna use it. Of course there’s also a
lot of customization present on the front of the controller, and a lot of that is accessed by just removing this front face plate. This is also the way
that you can customize the appearance of the controller, you can buy different face plate designs. This however is their
special limited edition Modern Warfare design for the Vantage 2, which looks awesome, so we’re
gonna stick with this one. But by taking that faceplate off, you are able to change out
a couple different features, including the sticks, and even removing the rumble motors, if you don’t wanna have vibration in game, and also add a little bit of extra
lightness to the controller. By the way, speaking of limited
edition design type things, we are in the season when
a lot of special edition systems are coming out,
soon we’re gonna be unboxing the Pokemon Switch Lite, and
the Death Stranding PS4 Pro, so if you wanna see those unboxings, make sure to subscribe
so you don’t miss out, also make sure to follow me on Instagram where you can see posts of all those special editions,
including this controller. One other physical change you can make to the controller that doesn’t require you to take off the face
plate, is the circle pad you can place over the D-pad if you prefer that kind of full circular motion, really handy for fighting games. As I mentioned earlier,
there is still one tool you have on hand for
the Scuf Vantage for one very specific feature, and
that’s adjusting the triggers. Now you can adjust the stop
with the little knob right here, but if you wanna adjust
how sensitive it is, the way you do that is by popping off whatever trigger you’re currently using, and you have a little tool key that you put inside the slot, turning it to change how sensitive you want it to be. Outside of that, again,
everything is handled on board. Aside from all the customization
options on the controller, one other special feature it offers is it’s very simple on
board audio controls. Now this only works while
you’re using the controller in a wired configuration,
but while you are, you can have a headset plugged in, and use this little bar here for a lot of really simple controls,
whether you wanna tap it for muting your mic, or sliding up and down on it to change volume. So all of that is cool, and makes for a very customizable, handy controller. But, those are all the
features that are present on the regular Vantage,
so what exactly is new and different on the Vantage 2? When you have the Vantage 2
side by side with the original Vantage, it’s pretty tough
to tell the difference. I mean, in this case it’s
a little more obvious ’cause it’s the Modern Warfare design, but if you just ignore that and focus more on just the controller itself, on the surface level, they
look nearly identical. However, there are a lot of actual, minute changes that have
happened to the Vantage 2. Like I mentioned earlier, this isn’t some kind of major redesign
where they’re branding it as something new and different, it’s just a re-examination and fine
tuning of the original Vantage. Now a lot of this has to do
with just the general build and materials used in the Vantage 2. For instance, the grip
design on the Vantage 2, while looking very similar
to the original Vantage, is actually based on the
same kind of design they used for the Prestige, which is their
newest Xbox One controller. And it’s just a little grippier, and in general feels a
bit better in the hands. And this actually is
also a change they made to the front plates on the Vantage 2s. The original Vantages had
this kind of sleek design, they’re both a plastic
cover, but when you feel them side by side, the Vantage 2’s plastic is a softer touch, and
generally less slippery. What this importantly translates to is that when you’re playing
for a long period of time, there’s less chance of
discomfort happening from sweaty palms causing you to slide all around the grip, and instead ensures that you have a nice constant
firm grip on the controller. Now there is actually one
noticeable physical change that you can see in the controllers when you have them side by side, and it’s a very interesting one that it took a little time playing on it to get used to it and figure out why. When you look at the option
share buttons on these, especially from kind of a
laying down position like this, you’ll notice that the original Vantage had option shares that were up raised, like regular buttons,
whereas the Vantage 2 has them flush with the face plate. There’s a little bit of
up raise, but nowhere near as high as they are on
the original Vantage. And the reason for this is to make sure that you don’t accidentally
press one of these buttons if you’re moving between the touch pad and the regular ABXYs or thumb grips. If you’re ever moving
around this region here, on the original Vantage,
they’re just up raised enough that you could accidentally
slide into and hit them down, which is really annoying
mid-game, because if you hit the share button, or
even the options button, you don’t wanna do that
during multiplayer. So, having them more flush
with the controller design makes it so that you don’t
accidentally do that. Now those are the physical changes that you can really notice when you start to actually look at the
controllers side by side, as well as kinda touch
and feel a little bit, there are a lot more changes that happen on the inside of the controller as far as how it’s engineered. And it’s hard to describe this in depth outside of the fact that in general, the controller just feels more solid. Everything feels like it’s more locked into place properly, I
think one of the areas that this is most noticeable
for me, was the rumble motors. On the original Vantage,
the rumble motors come out, and while they feel pretty snapped in when you put them back,
there’s always just a little bit of looseness
that I could sense. You don’t get that with
these, the rumble motors feel like they’re much more
just properly, really locked in, and makes the rumble
feeling on it a lot better. There’s just this general
sense of tightening across the controller that just makes the overall experience feel a lot better, it just feels better in the hand, it feels better over
long periods of playtime, and I think it’s also
gonna translate into it just lasting longer in
general as a solid controller. Now there is one other big change that’s coming alongside
the Vantage 2’s release, but it’s something that actually benefits both owners of the original
Vantage and the Vantage 2, and that is a new customization
software for the controller. This brings a number of additional software customization options that were previously not available on the Vantage, including the ability to change the dead zone and
sensitivity of the sticks. Another way of modifying the sensitivity of the triggers, outside
of that physical way using the key, you have
the ability to adjust the sensitivity of the rumbles, so previously you could remove them, or have them in, now you have the choice of also making them rumble
at a kind of mid-level, if you still like having the
weight but just don’t want that full level shaking
that you normally get. And of course one of the biggest things that I think is a really handy life saver, is profile management. It was really nice that this controller gave the ability to
customize all the buttons on the fly, but if you
have specific load outs that you like to have for different games, it gets a little annoying if every time you change titles, you have to actually manually reset everything each time. So with the addition of the software, you can now have multiple profiles saved and switch over depending on
which game you’re playing. Now this software is
not available just yet, it’s coming out later this fall for PC, no word on Mac yet, but
that’s pretty standard for a lot of Pro controller
customization softwares, but the important thing is that again, this benefits not only people
who pick up the Vantage 2, but also people that just
own the regular Vantage. If you already have the original version of this controller, you can start taking advantage of that software after releases, which is
an awesome free upgrade. So with the software
coming to both controllers, the question comes up then of, how worth it are all the minute upgrades the Vantage 2 has compared
to the original Vantage? Back when the original
Vantage came out, it was one of the first in a new line
of PS4 Pro Controllers. There were plenty of Pro controllers that existed before then that were good, they were fine, but as time has gone on, companies needed to find more new ways to compete and really
push to the next level of what makes a Pro controller. And I think that’s why Scuf is releasing the Vantage 2, it’s a way for them to just further refine and build upon the original Vantage, and make it a still consistent competitor against all the other options out there. Side by side with the original Vantage, the changes in the Vantage
2 are definitely minute, but I do think they are good changes. It does result in a more
solid feeling controller, and one that I think is going
to last considerably longer. I don’t think the changes
are significant enough that if you already owned a Vantage that you need to go out
and buy a Vantage 2, in that situation just enjoy
the new customization software, but it does strengthen
their position for people who are either looking
for a PS4 Pro controller, or maybe looking for a change from one they’ve already bought. One of the things that
I think is really cool about the current state
of PS4 Pro controllers, is that all the big
options out there right now are very different, they all have their own focuses and reasons for why they make a good fit,
and I think there’s one out there for pretty much everyone. When it comes to the
Vantage 2 specifically, I think the big selling points
for people out there are, you want something with a
lot of onboard customization, without relying on a lot of outside tools, you want something that you can adapt for specific games and be
able to switch to easily, and most importantly, I think this is one of the best choices out there if you’re a fan of an
Xbox One style controller and you wanna import a
similar experience to the PS4. While the other PS4 Pro
controllers out there definitely have their strengths, I think if you’re looking for something that’s gonna offer a similar experience to an Xbox One controller, the Vantage 2 is just the absolute easy way to go, in terms of the grip
design, the offset sticks, everything about it is gonna feel a lot more natural and at home to you, while still offering the great
benefits of a Pro controller. Now if you’re interested
in grabbing one of these, we’ll have them linked down below. It’s gonna be available
not only at Scuf’s website, but also a lot of other retailers, like Amazon and Gamestop,
if you’re interested in the Modern Warfare design specifically, this is only on their
website and Gamestop, so that’s gonna be the
way you will need to go.


  • anny the humanitarian

    Please do a follow-up video on this controller or anything by scuf. These controllers are very nice but they're notorious for breaking really fast.

  • Derpy Fighter

    This is one of the best controllers

  • oattar

    Fix 1 name it 2 sell it before PS5

  • Mike 54321

    Mr hands at it again 👌👌

  • Zach

    id rather play single joycon cos at least that wont break

  • wade johnson

    Scuff controllers are junk.

  • MrSamuelAdam4

    Oi vey Kevin! How many dollary doos did Scruf send you for this shill ad?

  • The Crispy Chip

    No we hate it because its build quality is garbage.

  • B Kavin

    ok boomer

  • Silent Angel

    Maybe if I could keep the sticks symmetrical like the DualShock controllers I’d like this controller but until then I hate it. 🤷🏽‍♂️ Solid, informative video tho Kevin 🤙🏽

  • Tucker Van Leer

    can you use this controller on xbox?


    Cmon bro. Cut it out. $200 for this plastic cheap shit. I bought it and returned it in less than a month. Go for the Astro C40. Don’t listen to this clown

  • Lloyd

    This was a thorough review thank you!

  • Esqueci meu nome

    OK BOOMER !!!

  • PrinceOfMischief2225

    Yeah no, this controller is trash. And they stopped caring about quality years ago. Battle Beaver is better. Save your 💰

  • Pixel Game Squad

    Pretty dope 💯

  • Traxifyy

    hell no. i bought the OG vantage and it never worked how it should’ve. waste of money

  • Joseph sunga

    Can it work with other consoles? With the Nintendo switch?

  • WaffleIOS

    i can’t hate it if i never heard of it
    i dont even have a ps4

  • Brawlio

    C40 TR by Astro is pretty great for me. It's not breaking so far, comfortable AF, using it for both PS4 and PC. I just hate how the right side button faces rub off easy. Like my triangle, square, circle, and X is literally almost gone. Otherwise pretty good. Even if one of the controller sticks break, I can buy a replacement part instead of buying a WHOLE new controller.

  • Phil Lee

    Still not available in the UK which is a shame.

  • iRickochet

    The PS$ fanboys wouldn't be able to get over the stick layout to stop hating on it

  • Just Zerk

    How can i hate something if I can't Have it?

  • s66shi

    I’m sorry but PlayStation needs to make their own pro controller

  • jfmthuglove

    Elite S2Xbox Boss🤩👍

  • Jason Gooden

    PlayStation owners with Xbox envy

  • Thierry L

    Can you tell me what headphones you are using on this video please.

  • Abe

    Stop promoting garbage products. These controllers last like 5 or so months.

  • Noah Ruiz

    Hi Kevin I would love to start a youtube channel and talk about nintendo and other game consoles. I just wanted to ask you some on how to start out.

  • Cody B

    Anybody remember seeing mad catz controllers years ago and going, look at that piece of s%#$, but if you had to you would buy it lol

  • Scotty T

    "It feels better in the hands, ladies you know the procedure" #flossycarter

  • Jose Gutierrez

    Bought the first one and it felt cheap and it broke on me not long after. Astro C40 is way better hands down!

  • Bas Oosterhof

    I hate it

  • Sanok Maynik

    i would like it more if i could afford it

  • Karlo Si


  • Scuba Tom

    is kevin's voice asmr to others?

  • X T

    I didnt know this controller existed.

  • Nathaniel Alcaide

    Who was hating on this controller 🤷‍♂️

  • Jordy Aguilar

    WTF is just a Xbox one rip off

  • Cody Heer

    Kontroller Kevin

  • ImTheDoctor

    So many name changes on this channel lol

  • Pete HrapStick

    You guys have way too much money tobe convincing people to get these expensive ass accessories one year left into the next console generation man.

  • Jumpiest Maple89

    I saw MW so I clicked I was in the middle of watching a nother Keven Keson vid

  • Senketsu Fi

    stares at R.O.B. the whole video

  • Drunken Paddy

    Almost great.
    Until you give me the shitty xbox style layout on a ps4 controller. Xbox layout is by far the lesser controller

  • Po Lo


  • Mitchell Sharp

    Can you make a controller playlist?

  • Psychadelirious

    Why do you change a lot of your video titles (sometimes thumbnails too) multiple times?

  • scorp scorp

    Can u make a review on the nacon reloution pro unlimited (the new one)

  • Walter

    will you be reviewing the thrustmaster eswap pro controller?
    it looks so good with its modular thumbsticks and d-pad

  • juskuporudeh

    Sir..hope you and the people here recognize my question,
    Im kinda new to minecraft I updated it to 1.13.0 (nintendo Switch) this day. Updated it but im trying to connect my controller but it keeps on disconnecting, i have 2 controllers Nyko and an 8bitdo but now nothing works. The joycons works fine..hope someone here can help me

  • SSJ God Goku

    He said “A B X Y” while reviewing a PlayStation controller.


    Both of them are good , prefer Van.2 specs. If the creator makes another one, Bluetooth sync Headphone Surround Sound Dolby Atmos features customizes for perfect sweet sounds clarity while controlling in the bottom touch pad, weight support to have better holding position to have balance handlings, buttons could be swapping key press-cherry in different feel and responsive lad input along with options the buttons can lightning LED features with similar lighting actions features that PS4 controller lights up on a specific moments to power up, dying character or etc.

  • Nathan Cooper

    Do a Scuf giveaway

  • ricky vids

    Would you recommend this for mortal kombat fighting games in general?

  • Nick Jeffrey

    The UK still dosnt have the vantage 1 ffs!!!!! Oh and the us scuf site won’t post to England 😂
    Fuck you and fuck scuf

  • ZenZory Overload

    The first Vantage was a pile of shit, I doubt this will be any better!!

  • Joshua Michael

    I love mine! Got the MW edition yesterday!

  • Brien Critchlow

    Looking at getting the PS4 scuff 2 just wondering how is works with Destiny 2? I have a few clan mates who rave about it. I don’t mind the price just want to know more about it. And how it works with a game I put 60+ hours a week on.

  • Spookynightnoob Xx

    Clap* scuff review

  • RedNasty7

    I’m prepared to spend 220$ on custom scud controller. Watching videos on Scuf controller I’ve heard they had tons of problems. Is it really worth it? Are those issues resolved? If not. I’ll stick to 50-65$ controller at Walmart

  • Kxlny

    this my first video I watched with you and idk i like your face you seem like a good guy im gonna sub

  • Mr.Squidi

    Doesn't the Vantage have mechanical face buttons on the right side?

  • Dario Hall

    When you have to have a disability controller and your able body. You just suck lol

  • Dylan Smith

    Basically an over glorified madcats controller. That thing is hideous.

  • Triple H

    It's a scuff so it also comes with the easy break feature

  • Arceus Wrath

    Scufs are trashhh

  • The Penguin

    Why buy when ps5 coming out

  • OmarDaily

    That MW design looks nice af!.

  • Ryuuk X

    I been usin this for a few hours, it feels very stiff and cut up to me at least. I hate it, but not gettin into detail i prefer the impact controller

  • Benji 0399

    Kevin the controllers kenson

  • vt_lavey TTv

    Love my c40

  • Synyster Goose

    Scuff is trash

  • Flix

    If only it wasn't an xbox design. I prefer the ps4 design.

  • Menthu Bakha

    $200 input lag

  • courier11sec

    Can we get a "feels good in the hand" count?

  • Jason Hunt

    My Astro C40 has had nothing but issues. Super frustrating. Makes me want to purchase this one.


    They are literally copying the elite controller dude

  • Moe Tha1mexikan

    Please No more buttons please

  • parthasarathy Venkatadri

    I think ds5 would mostly look like this except for the off set analog sticks

  • 3puntos

    One big option is the Nacon unlimited.

  • Deion Wells

    I had the one ….

    I hated the one

  • Vektan Starkiller

    Will the app support Vantage 1 controllers?

  • Aaron Buenaventura

    For me personally, Scuff makes the most non-premium looking controllers

  • Savage_Rez

    Wish I woulda got a Vantage 2 instead of a C40.


    I hate how their changing the playstation layout with the analog sicks, it makes me not want the controller

  • Liam Matthews

    0:34 i also have that Nathan drake pop😊

  • Kris B Cash

    Trash …. Save your money or get the strike pack

  • Nano Pharaoh

    They just put a 2 on it lol
    I’ll wait for the v3

  • GingerNotANinja

    The Vantage 1 and 2 aren't available in Australia, so frustrating and annoying for Scuf to do this

  • Big Boom

    scuf vantage 2 = ps4 slim +1 game

  • blytzace

    8:59 whats the controller in top left?

  • Rafael Morales Grimany

    you forgot to talk about wired vs wireless

  • nightbreed141

    They still didn't fix the issue for playing on PC which is to be able to play PC supported games in wireless mode via bluetooth !!! Scuf says that the wireless bluetooth mode only works for the PS4 and with PC which was a huge false advertisement. How do they make all of their previous controllers fully compatible with PC except for the Vantage controller ?

  • Jack Ash

    I want to buy this all I need is money

  • ToXiC_ TaCoO

    Bunch of a amateur gamers complaining about the controller breaking LOL, you guys just suck at playing every game you touch. This controller works perfectly, only reason you hate on it is because you can’t use the extra buttons let alone the normal ones, just go back to playing the Wii LOL

  • Chan Kok Soon

    No matter how good a Pro Controller is, the problem is it doesn’t switch on and off the console. You also need a Bluetooth dongle to use it. On top of all this, you need to flip a switch to use it wired or wireless. After spending so much money, it should have the same basic feature of a original PS4 controller.

  • LiL Filthys

    Getting mines this week can’t wait to get back into gaming

  • megazine

    Does it have PS5 support? That’s a deal breaker for me and many others.

  • Darko Sakač

    It looks like the same shit in the different package to me.


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